Baziotes and Tony Smith taught him. De Kooning, Frankenthaler, Mitchell, Newman and David Smith were among the Cedar Bar crowd he particularly associated with, a number of whose conversations he transcribed for a film. Hartigan had a relationship and close friendship with him. He and Frank fell out over the directorial credits for the landmark film ‘Pull My Daisy’, featuring Ginsberg, Corso, Kerouac, Rivers and Neel. A studio fire destroyed several films he’d been working on with his close friend O’Hara. He’d arranged with another friend, Pollock, to fix his truck the day of Pollock’s fatal accident.